I’m a Man, can I come in?   January 17th, 2012

I often get comments on this blog and on my other social media sites from men, dads or not, who would like to join in with Motivating Mum activities.  For the record, all men are welcome, to attend events, join in, participate on the blog and also submit blog posts.  As long as you are happy in a mum-friendly environment, I don’t care if you are male, female or other, single or attached, with or without children (your own or someone else’s).

To illustrate the point, here is a guest post from Terry Murphy, who is, (shock horror!) a man…


Women’s business clubs, Mums clubs, mumpreneur networks and blogs, am I allowed to join in?

Mums and Business

I personally don’t belong to any ‘men only’ clubs, in fact I am not sure if they still exist.  I certainly don’t recall seeing any business clubs or networks advertised for men only.  I suspect if there were any, they would be berated as discriminatory by many, including women.

So why are there such entities specifically for women?  I actually believe there is a great place for them and this is my take on why.

There are still plenty of men who believe women could not possibly contribute and would (or do) overshadow women in business meetings and business situations.  Good reason to keep that particular breed away.

But more than this, women have a particular way of thinking, interacting and problem solving that many men do not always appreciate or understand.

Of course there are plenty of men and women who comfortably transcend the divide between our genders.  But, to avoid confronting any who do not have this appreciation, it is more pragmatic to simply say “women only”.  It saves time and effort allowing real progress to be made.

The sharing of common struggles is another reason, but are there no men out there who share similar struggles? I think for example of the single Dad.  Facing many of the day to day challenges of being a working Mum, the single Dad often has even fewer peers. Men’s men may think he should have left the children behind as baggage to the other half.  Real men would not!

Women friends (of the couple) may well be more inclined to maintain the relationship with their ‘girl friend’.

Mums are so used to chatting to other Mums at the school gate, that a single Dad is an anomaly, looking out of place and best avoided.

How does feminism and equality fit into this?

I remember, one extraordinary week as a young bachelor, I had 2 first dates on successive evenings.  Extraordinary in itself but not as odd as the contrasting experiences.

On the first night, I took my date to a pub.  I opened the car door for her and got a glare.  As we approached, I reached forward and opened the door to the bar…another glare.  Within a few minutes of sipping the first drink (which I bought), I was facing a tirade of virtual abuse for being chauvinistic.  The date did not last long.

The following day, the next first date.  Undeterred, there was door opening and I paid for the evening.  At the end of the evening I was invited in for coffee (no euphemism, just coffee).  We were sitting in her living room enjoying a cup, when she got up to leave the room.  A moment passed and I realised she was standing by the door behind me.  I turned around to “aren’t you going to open it for me?”.  That relationship too, did not last long.

I was brought up as a gentleman (an expression that seems to have died).  But that inevitably put me close to the brink of chauvinism.

I like to think I survived those confusing times and now have a better understanding.  Still a gentleman, still sensitive, but too old to be counted as a metrosexual.

Now I work in this particular domain.  With women, indeed Mothers, who run their own businesses (Mums and Business).  I work well in this environment because I am now of an age where I can be regarded more of a father-figure.  What girl doesn’t love and respect her poor old Dad?

There is a place for men in the all female domain of the Women’s Business clubs, its just a matter of what value he can bring.

Terry Murphy is an author, business mentor and partner of Mums and Business.  A single dad, he is learning (always learning) to balance business and family.

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8 Responses

January 17th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Ann Hawkins Says:

Terry, this is a very hackneyed argument.

There are many men’s only clubs. Most of them are private so don’t fall within the discrimination laws. Others are based on the old-boys network and, while women are ostensibly admitted to membership, their activities are segregated – golf clubs come to mind.

The most insidious ones of course, are the ones that don’t actually ban women but have a culture that makes most women avoid them.

This is why women started their own networking groups.

Every minority (I’m not talking about numbers but power) bands together. Whether based on race, gender, sexual orientation or any other qualification, some people are more comfortable in a group of people who have common interests.

I’m assuming from your story and photo that you are a white heterosexual male and wonder if you would be as keen to invite yourself into a lesbian, gay, Afro-Caribbean or Asian business group?

It seems to me that men can’t conceive (well there’s a thing!) – I mean conceive of a situation where women can manage very well without men and so you can be sure that wherever a women’s group is, there’ll be a man knocking on the door reminding us that they are still there.
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January 18th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Jignesh Parekh Says:

This article comforts me :) I’m also a parent who reads your blog with quite interest, but I have to admit, until today, I was a little embarrassed to comment your posts.
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January 20th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Cletus Mbiri Says:

Business is about networking with other people of different genders who are also in business.It is also about providing and getting a service from the same people so when I as a man wishes to positively contribute to your forum you should welcome me.After all its business so why not.
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January 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 am
Brian Says:

I definitely know women have a lot to offer the fields I’m specifically interested in on the internet. that’s marketing, online and off, PR, and writing. That’s about all I’m interested in online and women, more then men (my opinion) contribute a lot. I learn from moms, sisters, daughters every day.
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January 23rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Debbie Says:

I have a certain amount of sympathy with Terry here. The single dad is a particular type of man who I think is very poorly catered for. He shares many of the hardships of mums, and yet so many ‘women’s groups’ crowd him out.

One of the reasons that Motivating Mum differs from many traditional women’s networking groups is there are no rules as to who may attend. Babies and toddlers are welcome, so anyone who looks after them, whether mum, dad,grandma or childminder is welcome too. And anyone of any gender who is interested in small business is welcome too, as long as they are happy with the fact that there will be children there.

January 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Elaine Says:

I think it’s a hard one to balance – I think people do need groups for mutual support that are based on common interests… you only have to look at the research to see how many women do not go to participate in mixed groups and if there wasn’t a need then the ‘mum’ groups wouldn’t exist. If groups that are open to all don’t attract women (and are therefore by default are male groups) it can be very hard for a lone female to get involved especially if her business is maternity / baby related as there isn’t common interest.

Single dads will naturally find themselves in a unique situation as they do every day at toddler groups and on the school playground – so if they feel more comfortable at a ‘mums’ group I’m sure that most of them would be open to a dad who was in the same situation as them?
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January 31st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Audrey Ross from Golden Beach homes Says:

Groups that involve both men and women are better of than those that only concentrate on one gender. People have so many ideas and the person or people you lock out of your groups may have so much to help improve your lives.

February 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 am
Sandra Says:

It is great that you are now part of a group where you can work with women. I am sure the group is happy to have you and they are grateful for your contributions. “Mums and Business” is lucky to have a gentleman like you.
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